Iāve never been a redemption stan, but I gotta say I hope Kylo gets the help he needs and the happy ending he deserves cuz honestly heās the most miserable Star Wars character Iāve ever seen. Even kill-the-younglings-Anakin had a support base with people who tried to help him, but brickhouse-with-a-baby-face has nothing. Like heās completely alone and everyoneās given up on him and he fails at everything. He got separated from him family, his uncle basically tried to kill him for being depressed, he was traumatized by a child predator and killed his dad because said predator told him to and the predator was all he had. Heās completely emotionally stunted, and the only thing heās got going for him is raw physical power which makes people pass him around like a sack of meat. JESUS, this dude has NEVER had a break, no WONDER heās a hot mess, heās literally being punished for the karmic mess his grandfather left behind JUST GIVE HIM A CHANCE-
If you think about it, we sort of get the life story of Kylo Ren in microcosm within the first minute of his appearance in the movie.
His master attacks him for not being literally perfect according to his masterās standards, and when he tries to stand up for himself, challenge this assessment for the bullshit that it is? Heās attacked out of the blue without so much as a change to properly defend himself or assert his autonomy. And the one affectation that he chose for himself (judging by Snokeās truly epic sneer at any right)? For that heās called ridiculous and childish.
People talk about Kylo like he had some life of privilege because of who his parents were, but a cage of gold and gilded genetics is still a cage no matter how you slice it.
^^^^
I just genuinely feel incredibly sorry for him. I never thought Iād fight tooth-and-nail for redemption bUT HERE WE ARE.
Iāve been so happy to eat crow when it comes to a return for Ben Solo. Now that itās clear heās been betrayed by everyone he loved and that his identity as Kylo Ren within the First Order is much more of an armor and a mask than a source of power Iām going to spend the next two years on the Rendemption hype train. I feel so much more than I thought I would for the last of the Skywalker/Solo line.
This post will contain extensive spoilers for The Last Jedi – consider yourself warned!
Before the release of The Last Jedi, very interesting language was being used to describe the connection between Rey and Kylo Ren. Rian Johnson called themĀ ātwo halves of our protagonistā, and the Star Wars Databank described theirĀ āintertwined destiniesā and mutual fascination. While the period prior to the filmās release saw fandom wars waged over the implications of these descriptions and what they meant for the characters going forward, The Last Jedi has finally given us some answers.
impregnated, thrust, penetrate – official words used in the description of the armor of the Praetorian Guards that Kylo and Rey had to face together
āThe layered armor of the Praetorian Guard is a high-tech onion-skin of laminate, impregnated with conductive wirepaths that, once powered, create an intense local magnetic field. Once this energy-intensive field activates, the powered plates can deflect blaster fire. Even a lightsaber will glance off, though a directed thrust will penetrate the shell. The mag-coils are costly, the plates heavy, and mag-field exposure is ultimately painful to the wearer, but such are the sacrifices of protecting the Supreme Leader. The Praetorians endure this out of unswerving loyalty and duty.ā
Ya know for months my bf and I joked about how phallic the penistorian guards looked
Apparently people think Benās āIām sure you areā in response to Luke apologizing on Crait was funny?? I mean⦠no itās deeply emotional and pained? āIām sorry I hurt youā āIām sure you areā thatās not a comedic exchange thatās fucking agonizing, Luke is probably one of the first people to step up and apologize for hurting Ben, and heās taking responsibility for what he did, and Ben assumes itās insincere off the bat because āheās just trying to manipulate meā or āif you were sorry you wouldnāt have done itā or just that nobody has expressed remorse to him, ever or in such a long time so when it happens he doesnāt believe it for a second. āIām sorryā āfuck youā would have been funny, maybe. āIām sorryā āNo youāre notā isnāt.
honestly idk how this works but i can see it as funny and incredibly tragic. like a lot of kylo acting out is maybe at first funny and then you think about it again and it makes you go āā¦oh..ā
Itās the kind where itās surface funny bc itās so dramatic but the second you give it more consideration it gets real sad, which is basically Bens entire character
Yeah I was confused when people were likeĀ āiām sure we all laughed at thatā and i was likeā¦.I was crying but okay
The entire Crait scene was a lovingly written apology. It wasnāt just Luke showing up his nephew and buying the resistance time, it was Luke showing up to take responsibility for what he did. For abandoning Ben when he needed him, for trying to kill him, for letting Snoke fester in Benās mind, and twist him into something heās decidedly not. For Ben, whoās been thrown about his entire life like an unwanted toy thatās incredible.
He denies Ben the ability to kill him, which is what Ben thinks he needs. He denies Ben revenge and instead leaves him with the thread thatāll lead to his salvation. An apology, a promise, and reminder. Luke says that revenge and anger arenāt the way out of this, that destroying the past will never solve the problem, and then shows what owning a mistake looks like with an honest to god apology. Make no mistake, the battle on Crait is Lukeās final lesson to his student.Ā
When Luke says,Ā āIām sorry,ā Benās not refusing the apology heās doubting that Luke is actually sorry. However I think by the time the battle is over, the dust has settled, and Ben is on his knees with nothing but cold regret, he might have just begun to learn.Ā
^^^^
This, ALL of this! At this point Ben is so emotionally distraught and thinking heās lost Rey for good. Itās something I think weāve all said when being unsure whether someone is actually āsorryā or not. Lukeās apology to Ben ranks up there with Obi-Wanās āI have failed you, Anakin.ā
Q: My question is about Rey and the cave. And I think itās a very striking and unique scene. Itās really different from anything else seen in Star Wars. And Iāve seen concept art of, I think Rey and half of her face being Kyloās mask. And I think kind of is really interesting and it parallels with the force vision that Luke sees of Darth Vader. And I just wanted to know what your inspiration for that scene was and if that concept art is still kind of relevant to that scene. And there is also like a voice that calls for Rey in that scene and I just wanted to understand what itās about.
Rian: The origin of that was just honestly a very, very, very early⦠before I started even coming up with the story⦠It was a visual image I had in my head. Just when I was thinking about Rey and thinking about what was important to her and her story and search for, really for identity and for a place. And you know as the hero, on a heroās journey, what the archetypal heroās journey of Joseph Campbell [is about], all of that really boils down to is just a road map for adolescence basically. Going from childhood into adulthood. And the big things we all have to go through to get there.
And for Rey that meansĀ āwhat is my place in this story?ā And she thinks sheās gonna get it from various sources and they are all letting her down and sheās still holding on to this hope in her heart that her identity from her parents is gonna give it to her. And so it was just an image that came into my head. Of this infinite line of, you know, possibilities of self. And these endless kind of possibilities of identity. And the notion of the playing with which one is theĀ ārealā her. Which on is going to be her. And where does it end. And it does end someplace, and it ends at a place that shows her basically kind of her worst fear. Which is that itās just her. And she is alone. Which again is true from a certain point of view and is very untrue from another point of view. You know, from the last scene on the Falcon with Leia and I think itās kind of a response to the end of that mirror scene.Ā
YOUR GIRL REY HAS A SEX DRIVE AND IS LEARNING ABOUT HER BODY AND HER CARNAL DESIRES, IāM REAL DAMN SORRY SHE CANāT BE YOUR CHILDLIKE VIRGIN WAIFU FOREVER
I have heard SO many arguments from men and woman alike who donāt understand Reylo because Rey is too pure for that.Ā She doesnāt HAVE those feelings.Ā This movie was a giant sex metaphor people dear lord.Ā
Honestly Kylo Rens whole character makes 100% more sense once you understand that he is, above all, hurt and afraid, and he wants not to be, and he has no idea how to make that happen. Itās why his actions are so wild and inconsistent and unpredictable- he really is just throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks, and none of it is working because heās completely failing to identify or address the source of his pain and fear.
both times when someone almost killed him, lookie there.
Seriously though, how does Kylo ever get a single peaceful wink of sleep?
He probably doesnāt.
After my first viewing of TLJ I had the immediate, unfortunate thought of Kylo basically always waking up afraid, or with jump, any time he gets a bit of sleep.
Those sounds we heard when Luke was going through Benās mind in the flashback? Constant nightmares, maybe. Restless sleep. All the time.
Couple that with the shit heās been dealing with from TFA, itās no wonder in TLJ he looks absolutely wrecked and like he hasnāt slept in 84 years.
haha is there anything about this kid that DOESNāT make me sad?? probably not.